Showing posts with label flood events. Show all posts
Showing posts with label flood events. Show all posts

Sunday, July 24, 2011

July 23 flooding... the worst ever.

The rains have subsided and the No Flood Zone is processing the extent of the damage and what the  community can do to further improve flood mitigation in the 8th Ward.
The Chicago Tribune had tweeted the following about the rainfall with a video clip:

  • chicagotribune: Rainfall at O'Hare-6.97 in as of 5am could be largest single-day since records began in1871 http://trib.in/n5p7ZI
And the weather observations from NOAA confirmed almost 7" in 3 hours






















Here are some thoughts from residents:


Dover and Pennsylvania was completely underwater. The water was up to my garage door. I had 10” of water in my basement, the most ever by far.
The City did a miserable job of controlling traffic here. All morning and into the afternoon, vehicles were going down Dover and Pennsylvania at high speeds, creating huge wakes that continually washed over my property and into my garage. One truck went through the intersection at least five times, causing more damage every time he passed, Virtually all my mulch and potted plants were washed away as a result of this. Water was forced into the tailpipes of my vehicles. The tailpipes are 14-16” above the ground, well above the water level at that time. I made 4 calls to the police dept. and was connected to dispatch. I asked them to send someone with horses to block the street. At 1:30, someone erected horses on Pennsylvania, but they never did anything on Dover. This intersection is one of the worst in the neighborhood when we flood and to let vehicles fly through the intersection is inexcusable. This caused a great deal more damage to my property. I ask that you bring this to the attention of the City. When this happens again, these streets have to be blocked off. There are enough other things to address than cowboys flying down the street.
I hope you fared better at your place.
Austin V. Stanton, Jr.



We had 2.5 feet of water in our basement and consider this by far the worst flooding event ever. With all the money that was spent on the Marshall Drive project, Julie and I are so frustrated that walking away from it all is starting to seem like the only option. Other neighbors feel the same way. Perhaps in time our neighborhood will be nothing but vacant lots.

I realize that right now I am not in the best state of mind to be making decisions, but the reality is that no one should have to live this way. These rain events happen annually, not once every hundred years, and it's time to execute Plan B - whatever that is.
Jim Vinci



It truly is a bad situation. Our house was hit hard as well. We lost the use of the recreation room and will need to replace 3 year old carpet ( as well as some furniture) which was installed as a replacement for the same type of flooding event.  

At an 8th Ward meeting on June 16, Tim Oakley, Director of Public Works and Engineering,  was nice enough to talk about plans related to the Storm Water Master Plan. He mentioned the design intent is to handle 4 inches of rain in 4 hours. This may not be enough. 
Also the results and recommendations from the meter data measuring water flow in sanitary sewers is due at the beginning of August 2011. Most of the water came into my house via the floor drain which means that there must be sanitary pipes that are taking on storm water.
The Storm Water Master Plan for the 8th Ward needs to be reevaluated and adjusted to handle larger flooding events.  


PLEASE PROVIDE YOUR COMMENTS BELOW TO FURTHER COLLECT INFORMATION ABOUT THIS EVENT.
Thank you.

Friday, April 9, 2010

$10.3 Million money for 2008 Flood Victims

Upon listening to a channel 17 (Comcast Des Plaines) rebroadcast of the 4/5/2010 Council Meeting, there was an announcement of the availability of $10.3 million for the relief of 2008 flood victims. There will be a meeting on Monday May 3rd at the Des Plaines Library starting at 6:00 pm that will help folks make an application to file for reimbursement of damages to property.

Also see Flyer
or point your browser to
http://www.cookcountydisastergrant.org/

Monday, November 2, 2009

Comments on 8th Ward Flooding Issues


The purpose of this article is threefold:
  1. To help people understand that the now approved acceleration of the Storm Water Master Plan will likely result in minimal relief to the 8th Ward;
  2. To highlight those issues which still need to be investigated and addressed by the City of Des Plaines; and
  3. To help people understand the process and timeline for completing the storm sewer upgrades
SANITARY SEWER INFILTRATION ISSUES

While the proposed storm sewer work will likely reduce the occurrences of street flooding, the real issue is the sanitary sewer system. This issue is more complex and potentially more troubling than the storm sewer issue.

Since August 2007, I have experienced seepage in my basement six(6) times due to a surcharge in the sanitary system. Four (4) of these instances occurred when there was NO street flooding. On February 26th, considering the possibility that my sewer line was blocked, I had it rodded. No significant blockage was found. I asked the City to investigate, which they immediately did. They stated that they jet rodded the system and televised it and no blockages were found. On March 7th, I experienced the same problem, indicating a surcharge in the sanitary system. The possible causes of this surcharge can include the following:
  1. Cross connections with the storm sewer system, possibly left over from the conversion of the combined sewer system
  2. Infiltration of ground water due to collapsed or broken pipes
  3. Infiltration due to tree roots into the system, causing larger breaches in the joints
  4. Infiltration through the pipe joints, which I believe are not sealed, (or the seals have deteriorated). It is my understanding that the sanitary pipes are 7 foot clay pipes with a bell and flange joint
  5. Infiltration through sanitary manholes that are below the water level of the flooded streets. This occurred in September and June
  6. Infiltration through yard cleanouts of individual houses. The typical cleanout cover has a square stud on it that allows a pipe wrench to loosen or tighten the cover. These are often broken off by lawn mowers, leaving a hole about 1 inch square. When the top of the cleanout is below the water level of the flooded area, the water pours in, filling the system.
At my September meeting with Mayor Moylan, Tim Oakley, and Jon Duddles, Oakley stated that the source of infiltration was ground water due to an old system. He assured me that there were no cross connections that the City was aware of. However, based on the level of the water in the system in non-storm situations, this is hard to believe.

In order to identify and address infiltration issues with the sanitary sewer system, the City should do the following:
  1. Perform a flow monitoring test on the entire system. They would measure the flow during periods of dry weather and compare it to the flow during various rain events.
  2. Perform an infiltration inflow analysis based on the results of the flow monitoring. The purpose of this is to limit the amount of water required to be treated. The hierarchy of the regulatory agencies that govern this is USEPA/IEPA/MWRD/Local Municipality. This is a result of the Clean Water Act of 1976. MWRD does not want to treat any more water than it has to.
  3. After the infiltration inflow analysis, the City should attempt to identify the major sources of infiltration. This could be done by televising the main lines. Blocked, broken, or collapsed lines or structures could be identified and repaired. Other solutions, short of replacing the entire system, would be to install liners in the worst lines. During times of street flooding the time it takes for the sanitary system to drain lags the storm system by 8-12 hours.
  4. Smoke tests could be conducted to determine if there are any cross connections.
The Metropolitan Water Reclamation District (MWRD) is the independent governmental authority that treats sanitary waste water. The plant that services our neighborhood is located at Elmhurst and Oakton. The sanitary lines in the 8th Ward were originally designed to flow north, where they were then routed east and south again to the treatment plant in Stickney. When the Oakton plant was built, an interceptor sewer was run from Golf Road (or thereabouts) south to the new plant. This was more practical than reversing the flow in all the neighborhoods. This interceptor collects all the sanitary lines running north and returns it to the plant for treatment. I assume the treated water is then released into Willow Creek.

In MWRD's Manual of Procedures for the Administration of the Sewer Permit Ordinance, Section 6-5 specifically addresses the issues of groundwater infiltration and storm water inflow (I/I) into sanitary systems. This section addresses the reasons to minimize I/I, the limits of allowable I/I, the procedures local communities are required to perform to be in compliance, reporting requirements, and the long term maintenance and operations communities must undertake to remain in compliance. Based on my experience in the last year, it seems that the sanitary system may not comply with these requirements. It is unclear if the City is moving towards compliance or what MWRD's position on this is. There are potential sanctions for non-compliance, but the status of this whole situation is not known to me.

It is very unlikely that the proposed storm sewer improvements will have any impact on the sanitary system situation.

STORM SEWER ISSUES

It would be worthwhile to determine whether the design standard for the storm water system follows recommended guidelines set by expert authorities and those having jurisdiction. All new development above a certain area is required to detain some nominal quantity of storm water on site. This has been a requirement since the late 70s. MWRD sets the release rate and many cities, including Mt. Prospect, exceed that. I don't know about Des Plaines.

There is no enforceable "standard of care" that a municipality owes it's residents when it comes to storm drainage. There are health related issues that involve inadequate sanitary systems. These are overseen and enforced by the IEPA.

The design criteria should be re-examined. Duddles stated that the Plan was based on the October 2001 event. According to a Tim Oakley memorandum, that was approximately 3.4 inches in 4 hours. This is below the June 2009 event and significantly below the September 2008 event. The June event was over 5" between 3:00 a.m. and 10:00 a.m., and the September event was over 6.5 " between 3:30 a.m. and 9:30 a.m with another 1.5" by 5:00 p.m. (Being a gardener and contractor, I have kept a weather journal for over 10 years) It is not practical or economical to design to the September event, which probably falls into a 50-75 year occurrence. However, to change the design criteria, it may be necessary to commission another report or at least amend the current one.

SCHEDULING ISSUES

To elaborate on the time line communicated by Jon Duddles (Asst Dir. of Public Works and Engineering) posted in a prior article:
    • A formal Design Bid Package will have to be prepared by the city. This will tell the bidding engineering firms exactly what they will be bidding on. There will have to be some reasonable time allowed for the firms to put their bid together. If, during the bid process, questions or ambiguities are identified in the documents, addenda may be issued, and the bid period extended. The bid process could be 4 or even 6 weeks. After the bids are received, they will have to be reviewed for compliance with the requirements and budget. If the responsible low bid exceeds the budget, there will have to be some approval process to increase the design budget. If it's in budget, then the City will offer a contract. Budget increases and actual awards may require Council approval. Then the successful firm will enter into negotiations over the contract. This should be a relatively quick process. It is likely that the firm will have to post a bond, to ensure that the City is protected in the event breach of contract. Only when all this is done will the actual design start.
    • There will likely be a preliminary design phase, in which numerous logistical issues are addressed, such as crossing Oakton St., getting easements, and coordinating with whatever utilities are currently running under Oakton. A point of discharge into Willow Creek will have to be determined. However, I'm told that approval to discharge into Willow Creek will not be required if it is in the City's limits. There will be issues with the elevations between the low point of the sewer on Marshall and the normal water level of the creek. There will be some minimal pitch required to ensure that the water will flow. I don't know how this will work after crossing Oakton. It seems likely that the sewer will be deep under Oakton to avoid whatever is currently there and may involve relocation, at least temporarily, of other utilities, i.e., Com-Ed, NICOR, etc. When this is done, the preliminary design may have to be submitted to various entities for review, i.e., MWRD, IDOT, etc. These entities will review and comment on the design, possibly making changes. The engineer will incorporate these changes into the design and continue. Upon completion of the design, it will likely have to be resubmitted to all entities for final approval. This process generally takes more time than it should, due to the bureaucracy involved.
    • Then the Construction Bid process will start. It will be similar to the Design Bid process, but will not involve any intermediate steps. There will probably be a permit process and the City and contractor will have to agree on a schedule. There will be multiple trades involved, periodic inspections and approvals, and weather will be a factor. Material will have to be ordered, manufactured, and shipped. The construction process could easily extend to six months, probably no less than four at best. The work would probably start at the point of discharge and work backwards to keep the system from filling during rain events while work is proceeding. There may be an alternate to this. At some point, they will have to switch over from the old system to the new system. They would want all new asphalt and concrete work to be done by Thanksgiving, as well as any landscape restoration, although landscaping could be deferred until the following spring, if necessary.
COMPLETED WORK OR WORK IN PROGRESS

In addition to the work already designated in the City's Storm Water Master Plan, there are other projects in the 8th Ward that are already completed or are in progress. These projects include the City's work on Jeffery Lane and their televising of the sewer lines, and Illinois American's work in the Waycinden area.

Jeffery Lane Issues

In August, Jon Duddles stated that the work on Jeffery was the replacement of the water mains. The structures that were installed were not catch basins, which imply storm sewer work, but rather valve vaults, which allow the city to isolate smaller sections of the water main. Thus, in the event of a water main break, they don't have to shut down the entire neighborhood to make repairs. This is standard engineering practice.

Televised Sewer Lines

In his response to my second letter, Duddles listed the streets and dates that the sewer lines were televised.
  • Dover, Danbury, Roxbury, Jeffery, and Devonshire 2009
  • Jeffery, Doreen, and Westfield 2008
  • Diamondhead Drive 2005
Illinois American

The Illinois American Water Association is a private utility company that services areas of Waycinden, dating back to before Waycinden was annexed. The conversion of the combined sewer system in Waycinden can only help our situation.

FLOOD CONTROL SOLUTIONS FOR HOMEOWNERS

I have reviewed the flood control systems on the City's website and have met with a contractor that installs these systems. Both the overhead sewer and flood control system should work if installed properly. In my opinion, the flood control system would be more effective. The overhead system may not work if storm water from drain tile is included. However, when the City states that the cost for the flood control system is around $8000, that does not include all the the electrical connections for the pump, landscape restoration, or repairs to interior finishes damaged by the installation. This system requires annual maintenance and has limitations on what can be run through the system; no Kleenex, tampons, Handiwipes, etc. The pump should be replaced every 6-8 years and it's expensive Neither of these systems work without power, necessitating some form of back-up power. Typical battery back-up is only good for 4-8 hours, not sufficient to have helped in August of 2007. The City should be lobbied to increase their contribution to homeowners to 50% for installing this system. For residents who have these systems (or think they have them), I can only speculate that they are not performing as designed, or not designed properly, because they should work.

Friday, August 28, 2009

Example of flood problems June 19, 2009

Below is a photo of what Marshall Drive actually looked like on June 19th after the water started receding. Notice the truck driver stuck in the water! I told him to turn around, but he would not listen!!